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Emrys

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31. What could Ukraine do if Trump reneged on any such agreement?

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:21 PM

Monday

Sue?

I understand why Zelensky has to go though these motions. It's quite canny to get these issues out in the open and try to put Trump on the spot, but ultimately Trump will do whatever suits Trump best at any point in time, and in any case he will not be in power when these mooted agreements come into force.

What a future Congress and administration will choose to do is another matter. One would hope that no civilized country would need a formal agreement in order to come to the aid of any country invaded by a rapacious bullying hasbeen superpower.

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I was just about to reply..... wolfie001 Monday #2

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I think he will only extract money from Ukraine MadameButterfly Monday #21

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I just haven't heard MadameButterfly Monday #27

He is asking Putin to stop blackmailing him. Irish_Dem Monday #30

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Zelensky understands who he is dealing with MadameButterfly Monday #22

"Hoping to survive until the US gets rid of Trump." OldBaldy1701E Monday #25

Ha. Yes, I guess that's the sized of it. MadameButterfly Monday #28

Any agreement with shithole and Putin is meaningless................ Lovie777 Monday #11

Putin and Trump will double cross everyone including each other. Irish_Dem Monday #16

What could Ukraine do if Trump reneged on any such agreement? Emrys Monday #31

Yes I understand Zelensky has to do Kabuki Theater right now. Irish_Dem Monday #32

Vlad will... Mike Nelson Monday #4

And send over some hookers and kids. Irish_Dem Monday #17

Unfortunately the US has become a four year organization! Hope22 Monday #5

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The only way to make this a binding agreement thucythucy Monday #8

It would be meaningless angrychair Monday #15

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There already is a security guarantee Bluestocking Monday #10

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Our word is meaningless angrychair Monday #14

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So gee, who would I trust the most not to lie about this. ananda Monday #24

It's a lie. Safe as Milk Monday #26

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"Guarantee" means nothing to Trump: he is a chronic reneger and breacher of contracts Prairie Gates Monday #33

Assuming the US gets a POTUS who is not a Trump, maxsolomon Tuesday #36